Alex Jones is a nutcase

Cody,

I’m the type of person who always likes to get the perspective of everyone. I listen to what is considered to be inside the box (the news), and I also listen to what is outside the box (Coast to Coast).

I do this because in many ways, I believe that each side always provides details that make events interesting.

What I’m trying to say is this: what you’re stating (that the conspiracy theorists are wrong) is just as much a theory as what conspiracy theorists say is right.

Take it in the sense of the scientific method. You have gathered information, and have developed a theory that anyone that thinks that 9/11 was done by the Government is wrong.

Conspiracy theorists, however, have done the exact same thing. They have gathered information, and formed a theory that states that our Government was behind 9/11,and anyone that says differently is wrong.

Both you and anyone that is a conspiracy theorist lie on the same balance of question.

It’s like in science. In my Astronomy class, my professor stated that everything in this world is a theory. One such example is gravity.

We think gravity is there because we can feel it and study it. However, no one has actually physically seen gravity.

The same type of philosophy is apply to what you and the rest of these conspiracy theorists are saying.

Your theory can’t prove the other side wrong, just as much as their theory can’t prove you wrong. The only way this can happen is if one of you finally finds full-proof evidence dis proving the other.

And until someone here gets into the government and is somehow able to find these answers, than that proof may never see the light of day.

When many people seems to be forgetting, however, is that conspiracy goes hand in hand with our Government just like apple pie goes with Americana.

In Government, money and power is everywhere, and as long as humans have the ability to be influenced, that need for money and power is going to lead to some very bad things.

Take this story for instance:
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/wire.php?view=1150

That right there is a conspiracy. People taking money so that other people can make money at the expense of other people’s lives.

Another thing about this is the advent of the secret societies that we have come to know.

The Free Masons, the Illuminati, The Bohemian Grove, Skulls and Bones, all of these groups have been documented in history.

Many of our Presidents have been Free Masons, many of our Presidents were members of the Bohemian Grove, some were member of Skulls and Bones (there is a Skulls and Bones picture that shows George W. Bush in the photograph).

All of these societies have been documented, and every one has had some sort of influence in our Government.

For instance, many of the founding members of the CIA were members of the Skulls and Bones group.

Another interesting thing is that the Illuminati, the group that many believe was behind these events, were not initially considered to be a bad organization.

If you look in the dictionary, the term Illuminati literally means enlightened ones, or ones that have huge amounts of knowledge toward understanding.

I believe this belief that they were evil came from the church, because if you know religious doctrine, Lucifer was known as the enlightened one, so I think that’s what created this view that they’re this evil organization.

Also, this so called New World Order that conspiracy theorists keep talking about has actually been stated before.

I remember a speech that Bush senior gave where he talked about the world becoming part of a New World Order.

Now, does this New World Order mean something bad? We don’t know, but what we do know is that it has been talked about, and for the time being, all we have on it are a bunch of theories (I have to say though, I find it a little weird that he stated this New World Order in 1991, just ten years before 9/11 occurred.)

What I’m trying to say is that when it comes to Government, there are so many things that we do not understand, and there are so many things that we may never understand.

Now, I’m going to be honest, I myself am a Libertarian. I was a huge supporter of Ron Paul.

I am, however, an agnostic, and find all of this psycho religious stuff nothing but laughable ideas (yes, a man lived to be 900 and was able to get every animal on a boat, and was able to get everyone of them to get along with one another). I also find it amusing that most of the conspiracy theorists who believe in this stuff are most of the time overly religious.

What I do believe, however, is having an open mind to ideas, and I think that’s whats most important.

One more thing I want you to remember Cody is something called the thermodynamic miracle.

What this is is basically a theory that states that there is an incredibly small chance (I’m talking 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%) of something so impossible, so absurd happening, that people think it’s crazy to think that it would happen.

One such example is a rock going straight up instead of forward when you throw it.

I’m bringing this up because not matter how many times someone says there isn’t any conspiracy, they always have to remember that one percent.

They have to remember that chance of something amazing and impossible still exists in every aspect of our world.

“What truly worries me is having people in office the likes of Ron Paul that align themselves with these nutcases!”

I’m sorry Hector, but what’s wrong with Ron Paul?

Ron Paul is a great individual who wants to bring this country back to it’s sovereignty by bringing back the philosophy of the Jeffersonian ideal, and the ideals of Washington back into the lives of the American people.

He wants to pull us our of Iraq (and every other country in the world) and make sure that we stop getting involved in the business of other countries.

Plus, there are a lot of people out there who don’t believe in these conspiracy’s that support Paul because of his common sense toward this country.

Please do some research before you insult someone thank you.

What is bumburbia?

Alex Jones (AJ) is not insane. He is a misleading capitalist. One glance at his advertisement riddled website should be proof enough for my assertion. His message is disturbing though.

Unfortunately, I have a couple of a friends that have recently taken up his cause. They portray themselves as skeptics, but as the old saying goes they, “have embraced certainty.” I don’t believe that the majority of his followers are crazy. However, I do feel that these people are simply looking for something to belong. In this case, it is a social club with a founding motto of, “The misinformation, no science, agenda pushing assholes!”

Most people become excited when they inform others of extreme events/experiences. Most of the time, those events/experiences may be something like, “Hey man, I went skydiving this weekend, and it was awesome! Let me tell you all about it!” I am not discrediting adrenaline junkies. For the most part, people want to be looked up to, and for those few people that feel they can no longer impress their peers with self accomplishments, they reluctantly resort to paranoia. Enter Alex Jones.

Alex Jones knows exactly what I am talking about. He has acted upon a financial opportunity to fill the void in the lives of these “event-less” people. AJ gives them something powerful to talk about, and through their discussions, they feel powerful and in charge. It is no secret that the majority of Americans are politically ignorant. So when AJ’s minions assert his wacko conspiracy theories backed by poorly researched data, the debate seems be credible.

I understand that listening to these morons can be VERY upsetting, but you have to remind yourself that the world is full of stupid people. As long as people like AJ pander to them, the “stupids” will always comprise the majority.

So for all of you in the majority, visit his website and support his capitalist pursuit. Purchase all of his endorsed products/survival gear and prepare for the day when the werewolves, global elites and whatever the hell else is supposed to take over…dummies!

Finally, I was beginning to believe the skeptics and critical thinkers were all out to lunch on this stuff. Alex Jones is, in my opinion, incredibly paranoid, delusional, gullible, uneducated and utterly insane.

I wonder if he really believes every word that comes out of his mouth? My hypothesis; Jones uses the generally credulous audience that loves conspiracy theories and other such non-sense, to unload those terrible movies he makes. This doesn’t necessarily mean he is just a showman or secretly doesn’t believe his own rhetoric. It just seems he’s got a lot of stuff to sell (his films, quack medicine, survivalist food stuffs etc.)

Really, the Alex Jones stuff is low hanging fruit when it comes to debunking.

Well, I have only recently been introduced to Alex Jones, the man [not personally]. I have visited his web sites before when taken there via a Google search, but did not know the name of the web site owner until I got involved in a debate with a friend who supports Alex Jones and his radical ideas.

Before I go on, let me say that even before I knew Alex Jones owned the websites, I discredited almost everything that I found on his web sites fairly easy. You ask me about ANY subject Alex Jones (or others like him, or his supporters) state as truth, and I will be able to easily prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that his theories don’t even substantiate the title of theaory, rather, false hypothesis. Much of the stuff can be proven wrong by using the VERY SAME evidence he uses. [Example: He claims that the government is creating internment camps for civilians, and shows pictures of razor wire & chain link fences. What he fails to mention is that the fencing he is showing the picture of if OLD, RUSTED, and DILAPITATED wire that was, in fact, used for the internment camps to house the Japanese-Americans during WW-II.]

There are too many of his theories to mention. As for the 7 WTC collapse, I have been a firefighter for 23 years, and, what most people fail to mention is that, the word “pull” is ALSO a firefighting term meaning to pull all personnel from a building due to immenent danger of some kind. Considering that Silverstein was talking to the fire chief, it stands to reason that the term “pull” was in reference to pulling the firefighters. ALSO, if you watch the COMPLETE video of the collapse of 7 WTC instead of the edited version that Alex Jones provides, you will see that all firefighters were “pulled” from the building immediately following the conversation in which the term “pull” was used, and 7 WTC fell on its own, without the help of explosives.

HOWEVER, for arguement’s sake, let’s say that 7 WTC was deliberately demolished. WHO CARES?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Look at what had already happened earlier that day. Would YOU want to enter 7 WTC after that? I know I wouldn’t. So… If it hadn’t fallen on it’s own, I’d certainly HOPE they would demolish it for public safety’s sake. However, ALL of the evidence, including video evidence that CANNOT be refuted, shows that 7 WTC collapsed all on its own, without the assistance of any explosives.

I’m not here to attack things, simply to ask questions.

I do want to note one thing ov this article. Occam’s Razor is not some infallible truth. Just because an explanation is simpler does not make it true. Occam’s Razor states that the explanation making the fewest assumptions is likely correct.

This is directed to Walt…
You state that the term “pull” is also a firefighting term. Unless Silverstein was documented stating firefighting OR demolition it cannot be sure what he meant. Either one is a fair assumption. And ov course if he had decided to pull, as in demolish, the building the firefighters would most likely leave the building as not to be crushed. That’s only logic… The point is, you have made just a big an assumption as the so called

Anyways, to get to the main point I am here to make.

I want to say… why not? I personally find it absurd to think that we live in some perfect world, or a perfect time, where our government could do no wrong.

Looking back at history, corruption in government is a common theme. My question to you is, what makes it any different in today’s time?

People seem to be brainwashed into thinking that we are perfect. People have an unfounded patriotism for a country that has done little to nothing for them and will stand up for it for anything. I realize that you are going to note my use ov the word “brainwashed,” but I feel there is no better word.

Why are we the “greatest country” on the earth? When was that decided? I would like to state that I am not from another country and my parents did not teach me to think like this. I got into many arguments with my father when he would hear how I think.

Continuing… This is a country which dropped bombs on civilians. Whether or not it is justified is not the point. Just as George Carlin pointed out about rights… If you really believe you have rights look up the Japanese Americans in WWII… That shows what the government thinks ov your rights. Innocent until proven guilty? This is a country that has tested drugs and such on citizens. Don’t believe me? Look up Project Paperclip, Project Artichoke, MKULTRA, MKNAOMI, and many more ov this type. There are so many I do not want to list. The projects are all related to each other. Another example… the Tuskegee Institute, … in fact just go to this page for a short review ov some ov the things this perfect country has OFFICIALLY done. My point in showing this is to get people to realize that we are not some perfect GOD ov a country, and innocent in the world. We have done just as much wrong as every body else.

http://www.geocities.com/athens/oracle/4809/gov.html

In a country that has unclassified things like this, is it really such a jump in logic to think they would knock a couple buildings down? This is a country that has killed MILLIONS worldwide, including citizens (Atomic Bombs anybody?) yet it is absurd to think it would kill 3000 ov its own? What is the difference than 3000 in this country and 3000 in another country? What do the 3000 honestly mean to the people who would have planned the attack?

The article mentions taxes… they don’t care about money. They can just print more up. Do you not believe the Federal Reserve is the cause ov our financial problems? Now the mainstream media is starting to jump on that idea.

I’ve heard Glenn Beck talking about the Federal Reserve, saying the exact thing that the “nut job” conspiracy theorists. It seems like every day I hear people in the mainstream news saying things like, “these guys would have been nut jobs a few years ago, but now they have a case.”

I know my comment is a little jumbled. I’m done typing… I hope people at least think about this. It is absurd that we are in some perfect time/country where this sort ov thing cannot happen. It’s happened many times in history.

If Alex Jones is so against the government why is he not an anarchist? I find him to be very hypocritical.

To the person who said “So what if building 7 was pulled.” That in a nut shell proves that it was a conspiracy. They did not have the time to properly set up a building to pull it unless they had done this prior.

I’ll agree that Alex Jones tends to go a little too far in his conspiracies, but he has nailed the head on a lot of things which makes listening to the man and reading his site worth the time. It’s like anything you study. You want to keep an open mind and do research instead of blindly accepting things.

Now 9-11…I’ve done a lot of research on this and there are too many things that point to a conspiracy. To say that our goverment could never blow up its own civilians is absurd when you consider the number of people we sent off to war in our history. Haven’t you studied Vietnam? Over 47,000 people died of combat wounds. My dad fought in Nam. He said they were bombing the northern border and had all their roads and bridges destroyed. He said they retreated and when he went back to the area months later, they had rebuilt the roads and bridges as if nothing had ever happened. They purposely strung that war out to feed the Military Industrial Complex, or giant corporations.
Now look at what has happened as a result of 9-11. You end up with another Vietnam in Iraq and Afghanistan, only not only does this war feed Wall Street, it also keeps our hegemony on the oil fields, the life blood of our economy.
Back to 9-11. The biggest things that stand out in my mind is the precise falling of the buildings. They went straight down like a controlled demolition. Had these buidlings fallen due to the planes hitting them, then they would have fallen in a jagged, disordered way, not perfectly straight down.
This theory of controlled demolition is also supported by firefighters testimony that they heard explosions BELOW them. That is key. What is even more weird is that the firemen who made these statements did not make it to the 9-11 commission report.
The Pentagon. Look at footage of this and you will not see large plane debris. Go look at other plane wreck footage and look at all the debris. You don’t have this with the Pentagon. And, though there were security cameras that recorded this suppossed plane crash, the FBI conviscated them and the only thing released is footage showing an explosion. That’s it, you get cut up footage that shows an explosion. The fact of the matter is that the cameras caught this footage, yet it was not released. Had a plane truely hit the Pentagon, you would be able to slow the footage down and show a plane.
I have only touched on a handful of facts. The reality is that there are way too many of these facts that can only lead one to the conclusion that 9-11 was an inside job.

Good job – keep up the good fight for science reason and rationality.

I used to think like you… but then I woke up
Who’s really brainwashed? The one who never questions what the government tells him, or the one who gets up and does his own research?
Can CNN really be a better source than 1300 Engineer Doctorates?

Thank you for writing this. These conspiracy nuts are damn scary. It’s even worse now with the internet – we’re going to have a generation of kids soon that think 9/11 was in an inside job or that the Apollo Project was faked.

Something you might want to read up on is the Zeitgeist Movement, which even Alex Jones will admit is absolutely bat-shit crazy. It’s essentially a rehash of late 19th century Marxism under a new name, and people are falling for it.

It’s my generation, too – I was born in 1992, the year after the Soviet Union finally collapsed and Gorbachev resigned. We didn’t grow up with the stories of the Soviet regime, and so many of my peers see communism not as an evil but as a solution. Most of them also don’t recognize Zeitgeist for what it really is, either, and the organizers of that movement aren’t helping: they defy all attempts at labeling and claim that their movement is not a political one. Bullshit.

It’s quite worrying, to be honest.

Yet another moron who doesn’t understand the difference between proof and evidence, and who thinks conspiracies never happen, lol. Moron.

 TL;DR Formatting is awful, and indicative of the followers of AJ. One rambling conspiracy bleeding into another. If you need to cling to the belief that your government does not have your best interests at heart, feel free.

Just refrain from implying that you’re ‘owning’ the OP by regurgitating bullshit that was fed to you by men who tout such bogus evidence based on flawed logic when they’re just doing it for the publicity and money.

Prison Planet is ruining my family. No joke. Thank you for writing such an amazing post, it encapsulates my exact thoughts about the website and other conspiracy theories. It is particularly disheartening to see my father, a wonderful human being, being sucked into something like this. Alex Jones’ dangerous influence has had a particularly strong hold over my father’s financial decisions, much at the cost our family’s well being. My poor mother, a hard working woman, now has to live with the fact that my dad believes some sort of apocalypse is coming tomorrow, and will now never own a house, despite our family being more than able to pay off a mortgage. We have lived in apartments our whole lives with this fear of the imminent collapse of our government and society. I’m all for safe spending and saving your money, but my dad is now ridiculously frugal, paranoid, and well… nuts. He has also become easily agitated when it comes to the exchange of “other ideas” that are not his own. Yesterday he called Carl Sagan “a stupid uneducated idiot”. *Facepalm*

Just read every last opinions/comments, and what i have to say is, every last person here is a NUTCASE.

Reasons why:

1. Alex Jones is a nutcase, who cares.

2. America is over weight, lets sue McDonald.

3. All Muslims are terrorist…………..

4. A little girl killed by her mother is more important then the war…………

5. There are no such thing as corruption…………

So in conclusion, i can’t wait for the next great tragedy where us Americans can band together and agree with one another again. 
  

“Simple answers”? Ha! You’re the fools who only want simple answers, like the ones the government gives you. I will admit some of these people’s theories are ridiculous, like saying: “There were no planes on 9/11″. I just want to yell at that guy and say, “asshole! you can’t fake an entire city with illusory effects”. I remember watching that second plane hit… I was too small to understand anything at the time ( I was like 10), but when I watch a video of 9/11 now, I shed a few tears everytime. There we’re 3 planes that day and no passengers on any. 2 hit the twin towers and one got shot down, by our government, in Penn. for taking it’s own course. If you watch the pentagon “stills” you can see smoke coming from the parking lot on the other side of the building… and it’s not at any angle, it’s perfectly horizontal. Notice how the part that was getting renovated was the one to get hit.  Same for the twin towers… I think 2 weeks prior to 9/11 the, like, 79th and 80th floor of each tower was under renovation. That’s when the government agents went in as workers and sprayed nano-thermate. This is my theory, obviously not the entire theory… much too long to type out.

While I respect your opinion, you should be careful about your terminology. Nano-Thermite isn’t sprayed because it isn’t a liquid it starts as a powder, then is usually mixed with liquid and compressed into a solid. People will be far less likely to believe you if you seem to not know what you are talking about.

i find it personally amusing how you try to discredit jones and people alike by weak arguements such as sugesting that “pull it ” meant pull the operation of fire personal. period blank that building was controled demolishing. it has been docuemented and proven. Hey man though i found your site trying to see if ok perhaps Jones is paranoid and dillusional, he still has my vote. You don’t need to be a demolation expert to understand simple terminology.  assuming “pull it” means “get everyone away and pull all the fire personal away” is just completely ridiculous. he had more to gain by that building going down.

while i don’t agree with everything Jones says. i certainly would not agree with one single thing you have expressed here.
if someone who raising concern and questions about their country , and those who run the country either a) do not respond b) say nothing but “hes a conspiricy theroist!” or threaten you with being thrown in jail , i say my vote goes to the person asking question rather than the ones evading them. 

thank you for attempting to difuse these questions but you vaugly touched the subject by providing a weak, countering opinion which lacks substance, and in which turn lacks proof to discredit jones. 

Jones has documented proof. you have assumptions and personal issues and would rather just counter opinions.